can they sway enough voters to swing the election? we checked in with our independent political strike team and the result, 73% yes, 27% no. so they do think that these debates can sway enough people to swing the election. that's a really crucial thing to say, everybody, because we're hearing that only 5, 6% of americans are undecided. so you might think mathematically there aren't enough undecided people to swing the election, but that's not the verdict of our team. ken vogel is one member who answered no the question, but he does say these debates can be crucial for another key reason and he's the chief investigative reporter for politico. good to see you, ken. always fun to have you on. this is the money game, right? whoever gets the higher score tomorrow, there's going to be a big, big decision. >> yeah, that's right. and it's something where if you look back at history, gallup cruned the numbers over every presidential election between 1960 and 2004. there were only two times where the debates were seen as pivotal in affecting th